>>>>> "Michael" == Michael StJohns <mstjohns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Michael> It seems to me that neither ID status nor RFC status are Michael> appropriate for these documents. The ID series is, by Michael> design, ephemeral and generally not citeable. The RFC Michael> series is stable and citeable, but the lead time for Michael> introducing an RFC is somewhat north of 30 days or more. Michael> I hate to open Pandora's box, but what I think we need is Michael> a citable, stable document series that has a production Michael> lead time similar to that of the IDs. I would probably Michael> limit this to the non-technical administrivia we've been Michael> recently inundated with. Michael> *sigh* Please provide some justification. You said that you needed these things but you didn't really say why. I also don't understand how this is any different than work that goes on in a lot of protocol working groups. I'm particularly confused about why we would have documents that we neither want to be long-lived but that we cannot be bothered to resubmit every six months. If we want the document to be long-lived, what is wrong with RFC publication? _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf