Scott, > as I just posted in response to a different posting from Bert > I think these are not the right questions - that these questions are > being asked is a symptom to me that the document (and maybe the IETF) > is not yet clear on the principals we want to have agreed to for > going forward - I think the whle question of a bank account > is an implementation detail that the people "on the ground" (IAD > etc) should figure out - the IETF should figure out what are > we trying to accomplish and describe that clearly > > Scott Well, let me say what I think these questions are symptomatic of (quoting from draft-iab-iesg-adminrest-rec-00): Scenario A worried people because it did not seem to acknowledge the IETF community's need to be able to determine if its needs were being met and to do something about it if they were not - the phrase "replace existing problematic structures by ISOC" was perhaps a capsule summary. I think there is a concern in the community that the IETF needs some way to ensure that it is not "locked in" to any solution we adopt at this stage. After all, it has been a complex and somewhat contentious road to where we are now, and while we've arrived at a consensus on a plan, we can't be certain that the community will think it is the right course for all time to come. Scenario O was adopted as a compromise position between A and B, but I don't think we should lose sight of the reasons that Scenario A was considered problematic in the first place. Is the question of an IASA bank account an implementation detail? From my perspective, it is one way to build in a degree of autonomy that would enable to the IETF to react to changing circumstances; certainly, it seems likely that the IETF's ability to react would be impaired by a lack of direct control over its assets. But as you say, the principle is what is important here. So I guess the question is, presuming people largely agree with the concern articulated about Scenario A above, how would you recommend that we guarantee the IETF's ability to react? Jon Peterson NeuStar, Inc. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf