Eric, I suspent that none of us on this list qualify as the nominal consumer. I do vehemently agree with your last paragraph. In some sense, you are saying that NAT is an intrinsic part of the nominal "residential gateway" (could be expanded for soho and small/medium business). As such, what is the nominal IPv6 based "residential gateway", and its feature set? Perhaps the IETF needs to do for "residential gateways" what it did for routers in the old router requirements days. Regards, peterf _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf