Re: How the IPnG effort was started

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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Jon Allen Boone wrote:

>
> On Nov 18, 2004, at 20:24, Joe Abley wrote:
>
> >
> > On 18 Nov 2004, at 13:30, Franck Martin wrote:
> >
> >>  For the moment what I'm working on is on ensuring that countries can
> >> get assigned a reasonable amount of IPv6 space. A lot of countries
> >> are below radar in the IPv6 assignement. When you have a population
> >> of less than 100,000 and when the IPv6 minimum allocation caters for
> >> every human, pig, horse, dog and grain of sand of that country....
> >
> > Just in case anybody here else thinks that the vastness of a /32
> > presents a justification problem for applying for address space, let
> > it be known that (under current RIR policies, APNIC included) this is
> > not the case.
> >
> > All an ISP (in Tuvalu or Fiji or Vanuatu or anywhere else) needs to do
> > is say to APNIC "I am an ISP, and I have a plan to hook up 200
> > customers with v6 in the next two years. Those customers will need
> > addresses, so please give me a /32." The RIR might ask you a few
> > questions about your plans, but assuming they sound plausible, the
> > answer will be "yes, here you go."
> >
> > None of the RIRs currently say "please justify why you need to be able
> > to number devices in 4294967296 subnets, and why each of those subnets
> > needs to be big enough to number 18446744073709551616 devices". If
> > they did, nobody would have v6 address space today.
> >
> > IPv6 and IPv4 allocation policies are different.
> >
> > We just had this thread on NANOG. I think it's v6 policy myth month,
> > or something :-)
> >
>
> And non-ISPs [the folks whom some think IPv6 can successfully be
> deployed w/out help from the ISPs] get them exactly how?

tunnels.


>
> --jon
>
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