> >> Let's assume ... that a large part of the Internet is going to > >> continue to be IPv4-only. ... you've lost me. where will growth occur? two variables: "nat?" and "stack?" so, six possibilities: nat? stack? ---- ------ nat v4 nat v6 nat v4+v6 nonat v4 nonat v6 nonat v4+v6 given the relative ease of acquiring v6 address space and the relative ease of deploying v4+v6 end hosts and either v4+v6 campuses or v6 tunnels in v4 campuses, there is no incentive to do nat/v4 any more, and precious little incentive to do nonat/v4. growth can be expected to occur only in the other four tuples, with most falling in nonat/v4+v6 and nat/v4+v6. not only growth of new hosts but metagrowth by upgrade of existing hosts. therefore after a middle state of perhaps five more years, the majority of services that anybody will want to access will be v4+v6 reachable, and it will be realistic to consider provisioning first nat/v6 and then nonat/v6 endhosts. very shortly thereafter, v4-only hosts will decline in value, both on the server side and the client side (and both sides of peer-to-peer). v4 will last as long as it's useful. -- Paul Vixie _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf