Noel Chiappa wrote: [..] > The IETF needs to seriously face the reality of the network that's really > out there, not the network some of us wish were there. I imagine any number of circuit-switching Telco-types said much the same thing to the emerging packet-switching fanatics 30+ years ago. And I know B-ISDN types said the same to "Internet fanatics" 15+ years ago. cheers, gja -- Grenville Armitage http://caia.swin.edu.au I come from a LAN downunder. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf