Harald, Thanks for taking the time to look at this. Hopefully this can be better handled in the future. I would encourage formalizing better some deadlines for the agenda and finalizing it in terms of the slots. Thanks Stephane _____ Stephane H. Maes, PhD, Director of Architecture - Mobile, Oracle Corporation. Ph: +1-203-300-7786 (mobile/SMS); Fax: +1-650-506-7222; Office UM: +1-650-607-6296. e-mail: stephane.maes@xxxxxxxxxx IM: shmaes (AIM) or stephane_maes@xxxxxxxxxxx (MSN Messenger) -----Original Message----- From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 8:12 AM To: Stephane H. Maes; ietf@xxxxxxxx Cc: iesg@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: FW: [Inquiry #19085] Issue with Meeting Schedule change at the last moment Stephane, having investigated the matter a little bit.... This scheduling was final rather late. This is unfortunate, and it's on the list of things that we hope we can improve for later IETFs. You're not the only one having trouble because of this. But...... - The WG chair did not announce to the WG list that the meeting would be on Wednesday. In fact, the first announcement said "Monday and Wednesday". Late, but that was the first announcement. - Late schedule changes are a fact of life in the IETF. When the WG discussion indicates the need for more time, the IETF will try to accomodate it. Sometimes this means late scheduling. Sorry. - Having meetings where some proponents can't make it is a fact of life, unfortunately. Some don't have the budget at all, some have conflicts, some just can't come. That's why we point to the mailing list as final arbiter, and why we try to strongly encourage all arguments and counterarguments to appear on the mailing list. It's the place where everyone is, and everyone can see it. - My one beef with the procedure followed here was that there were few updates to the mailing list during the scheduling process - saying how many slots were requested, that they had not been finalized, and that they had been requested for different days. I hope that kind of info can be available sooner for later IETFs - in addition to getting the scheduling done earlier! Summary: This meeting will not be cancelled. Thank you for participating in the IETF! Harald Alvestrand _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf