On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "Brian" == Brian Rosen <br@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > Brian> You guys don't have a problem with the "defensive > Brian> suspension"/"no first use" clauses, do you? > > There is not consensus in the free software community on this issue. > I believe the Open Source Initiative (opensource.org) is OK with such > clauses. Debian (debian.org) is not although there are some of us > within Debian who question this decision. I don't know what the FSF's > stance is on this issue. > > This is one of the many reasons why I think the free software > community needs to get together and decide what it wants *before* > coming to the IETF. > The free/open source software communities and the IETF are not mutually exclusive sets. > > Again, I'm not proposing that the free software community can change > the IETF's IPR policies We had that debate recently and it's clear > there is not consensus to change it. > > I do think that some patent holders want to make their technology > available to the free software community. I believe that if the free > software community agreed on what it wanted, it would be reasonable > for the IETF to pass that along to IPR holders as information to > consider when drafting proposed licenses. > > --Sam > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf