Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > hmmmm..... > > --On 7. oktober 2004 13:12 +0200 Simon Josefsson <jas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> As far as I can tell, those rights are only granted to the ISOC and >> the IETF, not "third parties". > > Solely for the purpose of using the term in RFC 3667, the IETF is defined > as: > > a. "IETF": In the context of this document, the IETF includes all > individuals who participate in meetings, working groups, mailing > lists, functions and other activities which are organized or > initiated by ISOC, the IESG or the IAB under the general > designation of the Internet Engineering Task Force or IETF, but > solely to the extent of such participation. > > So this means that Simon Josefsson is allowed to exercise the rights Scott > quoted and incorporate the executable pieces into running code, but the guy > on the next desk, who isn't on any IETF mailing list, is not, even though > they work on the same project, for the same employer, under the same laws. > If he joins an IETF list (any IETF list), he's allowed to. I don't believe I, nor "he", would be able to represent the IETF in a court, as the legal owner for a work, merely because I ("he") participate in some mailing list. As far as I can tell, that would ultimately be required if you were to defend the rights to your work. If, instead, "third parties" where granted rights to create a derivative work from RFCs, both I and "he" could represent such a "third party". Btw, I don't believe I'm a member of any IETF mailing list, although I do participate in them. Hint: gmane.org. Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf