esr@xxxxxxxxxxx (Eric S. Raymond) wrote on 05.10.04 in <20041005045722.GA30817@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > In the last 60 days, the IETF has taken the worst blow to its > credibility that I have observed in the entire history of the > organization. I refer, of course, to the Sender-ID debacle, which > exposed IETF's inability or unwillingness to defend Internet > standards against patent predation even when the existence of > prior art is readily establishable. Strangely enough, those exact same events gave me hope that the IETF is not yet hopeless. I count this one as a win. Because the evil patent side (i.e., MS) *failed* to get their patented baby (which it turns out now probably isn't even theirs in the first place) made into an Internet standard. Before this had been played out, I had been rather afraid that they'd win this round. Instead, they lost, and we won. Why is that bad? MfG Kai _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf