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I think you've oversimplified the claims for and cause of daylight savings. Do read the definitive book on the topic.
http://savingthedaylight.com/
Promoting daylight savings became William's life's work.
There are some people -- e.g. him, Thomas Midgely Jr. in pioneering lead in petrol and CFCs - who I suspect would have benefitted the world far more had they simply never gotten out of bed.
Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx
benefitting the world with my views from bed.
On 7 Mar 2025, at 10:38, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What I found quite astonishing is the notion that anyone believes this chaos saves any money.
If saving money was really the point, they would have aligned the US and EU switchover times when they had the chance. But no, let's have some being different for the sake of being different.
The actual reason we have daylight savings was a rather obnoxious Englishman who wanted to play golf before work and happened to be in just the wrong place at the wrong time and was listened to.
Problem is that once something is accepted as fact, people will do pretty much anything to avoid thinking about the absurdity of the claim. In theory DST is predicated on farmers who turn out not to use DST, it gets in their way because they align rather more closely.
And Hawaii. Talk about complicated.
Oh, it's one step worse.
The state of Arizona does not observe DST. The Navajo nation inside Arizona does observe DST, mostly because the Navajo nation exists in three different states. And, inside the Navajo nation is the Hopi reservation, which does not observe DST.
On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 5:03 PM Clint Chaplin <clint.chaplin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> We (the USA) also have regions that do not observe DST.
...some of which have regions *inside* them that *do*. It's
confusion, confusion, confusion, all the way down . . . .
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