[Last-Call] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bfd-large-packets-13

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Dan,

Version -14 incorporates the two changes below, updates Albert's email
address, and adds instructions to IANA as flagged during their review.

-- Jeff

On Sat, Dec 07, 2024 at 01:08:39AM +0200, Dan Romascanu wrote:
> Your proposals are acceptable for me.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 1:00 AM Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Dan,
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 07, 2024 at 12:23:02AM +0200, Dan Romascanu wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 5:59 PM Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > In other words, the implementations know the use cases best for their
> > > > deployments..
> > >
> > > Maybe a short text would clarify. It was not obvious for me, but it may
> > be
> > > my lack of familiarity.
> >
> > SHOULD means you should do it. If you vary from it, you have your own
> > reasons for it. :-)
> >
> > My recommendation is that the text is fine.  Throwing a number of contrived
> > or real examples to justify it doesn't help the clarity nor change the
> > level
> > from "a good idea, do it and we're not making variances from it
> > non-conformant".
> >
> > > > > Nits/editorial comments:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Section 4.2
> > > > >
> > > > > 'Since the consideration is path MTU, BFD sessions using this feature
> > > > >    only need to use a bfd.PaddedPduSize appropriate to exercise the
> > path
> > > > >    MTU for the desired application.
> > > > [...]
> > > > > This sentence seems to need some syntax clean-up.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, this looks clear to me. Did you have a specific bit of rewrite
> > you
> > > > thought appropriate?  If not, I suspect this is something the RFC
> > editor
> > > > will help with as part of the final editing process.
> > > >
> > >
> > >  'use a bfd.PaddedPduSize appropriate' sounds bad grammar to me. Do you
> > > mean 'use an appropriate value of bfd.PaddedPduSize'?
> >
> > That's acceptable.
> >
> > > > > 2. I am not sure about Appendix A. If this is useful information,
> > why not
> > > > > include it in the body of the document. If not, eliminate it.
> > > >
> > > > It's information. It has been previously useful. It's been left in
> > because
> > > > a
> > > > regular occurence during this work is "this existing padding feature
> > exists
> > > > and solves your problem".  It doesn't, but it's related.
> > > >
> > > > While I'm fine deleting it, the fact that this has conversational
> > point has
> > > > recurred so many times leaves me inclined to at least nod towards the
> > > > related functionality.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If it's useful, why not include this in the Introduction Section?
> >
> > Introduction: Path MTU is a problem. Oh, this ISIS feature exists and
> > people
> > keep saying it helps... well, it doesn't. It's not fast enough, and it's
> > single hop and doesn't run at the IP layer.  People try padded pings. That
> > dosn't help either.  Here's what we do instead!
> >
> > Nah.
> >
> > As I typed above, I'm fine deleting the appendix. It exists to head off
> > annoying recurrences of the same discussion.  Once this is shipped as an
> > RFC
> > that small benefit is moot.
> >
> > -- Jeff
> >
> >
> >

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