[Last-Call] Re: [dmarc-ietf] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-36.txt> (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance (DMARC)) to Proposed Standard

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On December 1, 2024 7:47:31 PM UTC, Jim Fenton <fenton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>Considering the above problems, DMARCbis is neither safe nor effective. It should not be published as a standards track document by IETF.
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I think all of the concerns Jim expressed in his email are essentially accurate.  I've deleted them for readability, since I don't think they are relevant to the response I want to provide.

If the choice were DMARC or no DMARC being used then I think it would be great to have that discussion, but that's not a choice the IESG or the IETF community gets to make.  Unlike ADSP, it is very widely deployed and nothing we do will affect that.

As written, I don't think the draft is meant to be a document that provides a protocol and pushes for universal acceptance because it's so useful everyone should get on board.  I think it's written to say IF you are going to do DMARC (and there are reasons you might not want to), here's a somewhat better way to approach it.


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