Hello, what's about a gender neutral name? "Mandy" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_(name)) would be close to "Man". Regards, Dieter -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: tom petch <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. November 2024 12:43 An: Brockhaus, Hendrik <hendrik.brockhaus=40siemens.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Lars Eggert <lars@xxxxxxxxxx>; noloader@xxxxxxxxx Cc: tsv-art@xxxxxxxx; draft-ietf-lamps-rfc6712bis.all@xxxxxxxx; last-call@xxxxxxxx; spasm@xxxxxxxx Betreff: [lamps] Re: Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-lamps-rfc6712bis-07 From: Brockhaus, Hendrik <hendrik.brockhaus=40siemens.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 06 November 2024 15:02 I just talked to Tim Hollebeek. He proposed to change 'man-in-the-middle' to 'meddler-in-the-middle' to stay with the abbreviation MITM. <tp> One of our ADs always used to use 'Monkey in the Middle' which seemed suitably asexual, Tom petch Hendrik > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Lars Eggert <lars@xxxxxxxxxx> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2024 10:47 > An: noloader@xxxxxxxxx > Cc: tsv-art@xxxxxxxx; draft-ietf-lamps-rfc6712bis.all@xxxxxxxx; > last-call@xxxxxxxx; spasm@xxxxxxxx > Betreff: Re: [lamps] Tsvart last call review of > draft-ietf-lamps-rfc6712bis-07 > > Hi, > > On Nov 5, 2024, at 16:45, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Two counterpoints. First, "man-in-the-middle" is a term of the art. > > It does not lend itself to word swapping. I don't think it is wise > > to invent new terms for a well established term. > > the IETF has agreement to use the guidance in NIST.IR.8366. The > proposed rewording is aligned with Section 4.1 of NIST.IR.8366. > > Thanks, > Lars -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Spasm mailing list -- spasm@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to spasm-leave@xxxxxxxx -- last-call mailing list -- last-call@xxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to last-call-leave@xxxxxxxx