[Last-Call] Re: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5321bis-32

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Rob (and Tim),

As I mentioned in an offlist note to Tim, there are ways to rewrite
the sentence to eliminate starting with a lower-case letter.   With
his suggest, mine, and yours, we are now up to at least three
possibilities.  While all three eliminate the somewhat-glaring
"sentence starting in lower-case letter", none of them "fix" (quotes
deliberate) problem of a name/title not being in upper case, which is
a different sort of problem.  One could attack that problem by saying
(borrowing from both your suggestion below and Tim's,

	"The contributor 'chetti' provided an analysis..." 

but that could be taken as insulting, i.e., that they are not a real
person but some sort of unusual term or alias -- far different from
the "someone claiming to be Joe Smith" sort of structure that John
Levine and a few others seem to use, especially since that latter can
reasonably be taken as a comment on email sender authentication
technology rather than as about Joe.

I think we have now descended far enough into editorial style matters
that we should stop cluttering the Last Call and EMAILCORE lists and
hand this off to the RPC. I will add it to my notes about things to
be brought to their attention. I'm also trying to get a consolidated
draft ready so the WG can consider outstanding issues when we meet
during IETF and, however well-intentioned, beating issues like this
to death (quite different from Tim's initially identifying it) is an
effective DoS attack on that effort.

    best,
    john

	
--On Friday, October 25, 2024 14:05 -0700 Rob Sayre
<sayrer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Maybe
> 
> "The contributor chetti provided an analysis that clarified the ABNF
> productions that implicitly reference other documents."
> 
> If one really wants to "fix" it. I kind of like it as-is now that I
> understand it, but I think it might keep coming up, as evidenced
> here.
> 
> Also fine with leaving it to the RFC Editor.


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