[Last-Call] Re: Secdir review of draft-eastlake-fnv

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On 12-Oct-24 09:10, Watson Ladd wrote:
Dear all,

I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's
ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the
IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the
security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat
these comments just like any other last call comments.

The summary of the review is Not Ready.

The draft does a good job of describing the FNV-1a hash function.
However, it falls short on recommending when it should be used and
when it should not be. Python had to change away from FNV-1a due to
collision attacks leading to DoS (https://peps.python.org/pep-0456/,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdrab3sB7MU). The offset is
insufficient to solve this problem. FNV-1a is slower than other hash
functions with better guarantees of equidistribution, taking one
multiply per byte and is hard to parallelize. I think this draft needs
to say these things, and advise against usage in new applications and
protocols.

Isn't that a bit too wide? It took me a while to track it down, but
it seems that the original exposition of this problem is at
http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/Fahrplan/attachments/2007_28C3_Effective_DoS_on_web_application_platforms.pdf

That seems too narrow an attack to justify avoiding it in *all*
new applications and protocols. The whole world is not HTTP POST.

I do agree that an additional warning is needed.

   Brian Carpenter



Sincerely,
Watson Ladd


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