not to prolong this not-related-to-the-reorg-topic too much longer but fwiw - I think that the IETF is well within its rights when it publishes the proceedings that include now-expired IDs and would be well within its rights to publish expired IDs in a public archive from RFC 2026 (October 1996) 10.3.1. All Contributions By submission of a contribution, each person actually submitting the contribution is deemed to agree to the following terms and conditions on his own behalf, on behalf of the organization (if any) he represents and on behalf of the owners of any propriety rights in the contribution.. Where a submission identifies contributors in addition to the contributor(s) who provide the actual submission, the actual submitter(s) represent that each other named contributor was made aware of and agreed to accept the same terms and conditions on his own behalf, on behalf of any organization he may represent and any known owner of any proprietary rights in the contribution. l. Some works (e.g. works of the U.S. Government) are not subject to copyright. However, to the extent that the submission is or may be subject to copyright, the contributor, the organization he represents (if any) and the owners of any proprietary rights in the contribution, grant an unlimited perpetual, non-exclusive, royalty-free, world-wide right and license to the ISOC and the IETF under any copyrights in the contribution. This license ^^^^^^^^^^^ includes the right to copy, publish and distribute the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ contribution in any way, and to prepare derivative works that are ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ based on or incorporate all or part of the contribution, the license to such derivative works to be of the same scope as the license of the original contribution. note that this is not ansering the question of SHOULD the IETF do so just the question of MAY the IETF do so Scott appendix A simular language appears in the previous version of the IETF standards process RFC 1602 (March 1994) 5.4.1. All Contributions By submission of a contribution to ISOC, and in consideration of possible dissemination of the contribution to the Internet community, a contributor is deemed to agree to the following terms and conditions: l. Contributor agrees to grant, and does grant to ISOC, a perpetual, non-exclusive, royalty-free, world-wide right and license under any copyrights in the contribution to reproduce, distribute, perform or display publicly and prepare derivative works that are based on or incorporate all or part of the contribution, and to reproduce, distribute and perform or display publicly any such derivative works, in any form and in all languages, and to authorize others to do so. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf