It appears that John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> said: >The other, more constructive, thought is very much along the lines >you suggest above. Rather than continuing this seemingly endless >discussion, could those who believe that Something Should Be Done >about Telnet (and/or FTP) get together and generate a draft for an >Applicability Statement that carefully explains the problems and >disadvantages of continued use of those protocols and explores the >alternatives for typical cases. ... That seems like a plausible way forward. At the risk of ocean boiling, there are a lot of internets that are not the Internet, and often they are more like the early Internet: the operator knows who all the users are, none of them are likely to be hostile, and the computing resources are severely limited. It would be interesting, albeit a lot of work, to look at our protocols and see how many remain appropriate for that kind of environment even if no longer for the modern hostile Internet. R's, John
