Dear LLC/IESG: Given how i may unfortunately not be able to raise the questions tonight at the plenary, i wanted to ask them here to the IESG/LLC and Cc the relevant lists: 1. Question: How many people did register for IETF120 and requested an invitation letter, but did not check-in onsite. The final count of course would be on friday if someone actualy only wanted to go to IETF for one day, but the data for today would likely be a good indicator. Yes, not all of these people may have failed to attend IETF120 in person because of Visa issues, but it seems like a good first estimate and most likely reason, unless more analysis is done. 2. Could IETF/LLC please do have a questionaire to primarily those people, but of course if desired also everybody else to better understand the causes for not attending, especially because those reasons that we could impact by our future processes. - A Visa was not approved even though the application was sent to the authorities before the publically known required timeline (i was told that that timeline was about 50 days). ... rejected ? / no final answer received... ? - A Visa was requested too late - ... other reasons.. what could they be... Reaching out to more people than just those that actually did get an invitation letter would also be important because there may be reasons that did prohibit those people to sufficiently well in ahead pay for IETF registration to get the invitation letter to be able to request the Visa - or people who where just surprised to learn how long it would take - and gave up before requesting an invitation letter. aka: those type of questions should ideally be raised in the questionaire as well. 3. With that data available, i hope we would be able to discuss better possible conclusions of how we could avoid less Visa rejections in the future - Providing invitation letters to start Visa applications earlier - Reconsider future MTGvenues (such as hopefully not Montreal in Canada in 2025, but worst case that question might need to come up if the above idata does show that there is sufficient unpredictability or even rejections of Visa from Canada. Thanks you so much Cheers Toerless