Re: [Last-Call] Re: L2 posting rights restriction

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Why was this thread on the last-call list? It's not about a last call.

On 11-Jun-24 04:05, Ted Lemon wrote:
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I would say that this PR-action is too little

Read BCP 83. It is *indefinite* unless revoked, and all list managers may apply it at their discretion. How is that too little? It allows the IETF to completely muzzle somebody.

, too late.

Possibly, but anybody could have requested the IESG to do this sooner, but nobody did.

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Right now we don't actually have any sort of formal moderation process,

Huh? That's exactly what the moderators just did.

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I would say our current harassment policy is actually fairly vague.

I think the Ombudsteam would beg to differ, but in any case this isn't an anti-harassment action; that's a separate pathway.

On 11-Jun-24 04:07, Ted Lemon wrote:

Oh, one additional point: a PR-action shouldn't be per-mailing list.

It isn't. It allows all list managers to block the sender.

On 11-Jun-24 04:34, Chris Box wrote:

Last year many former IETF Chairs proposed such an IETF-wide moderation scheme:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ecahc-moderation-00.html

We did. But moderation would still start with the WG Chairs - a single team cannot feasibly moderate all lists. Maybe this needs to be in the gendispatch/alldispatch list.

   Brian







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