Re: WG Action: Formed Mail Maintenance (mailmaint) / Commitment

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On 5/23/2024 3:24 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
So, can we consider this a ten month experiment


Test, not 'experiment'.  To be constructively pedantic, this 'experiment' has no null hypothesis, treatment controls, or measures for success or failures.  In fact, it will probably have no indicators of failure that are useful, because there are far too many factors that can lead to a negative outcome.

The only path that might produce a useful indicator will be with a pattern of successes.

Given that the barriers to adoption require formal commitments before work can begin, it is difficult to see how success can be achieved.  

Again, the charter imposes a barrier that is without precedent in the IETF, given it's blanket, a priori assertion for all work done through this wg.  It is striking that there seems to be so little awareness of the difference between this and any kind of established IETF practice, or how nuanced downsides of organizational change typically are.

That is, after 10 months, only if there have been a series of successful efforts will it be possible to make a valid statement about the wg and its charter. 

Or, I suppose, there might be documentation of problems.  But since basic concerns are being ignored now, what will cause them to have more useful effect later?


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