Harald wrote... > Foretec has paid employees doing the secretariat job. One of the transparency problems can be seen at https://www1.ietf.org/secretariat.html The Secretariat is hosted by the Corporation for National Research Initiatives. It can be reached at: IETF Secretariat c/o Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 20191-5434 USA +1 703 620 8990 (voice) +1 703 620 9071 (fax) Closer examination shows that Foretec are resident at the same (postal) address. and on the Foretec Web site http://www.foretec.com Currently, Foretec's association management and event services contribute to the ongoing operation and success of the Internet Engineering Task Force - hosted by the Corporation for National Research Initiatives. Foretec has also provided targeted specialty services to the the Corporation for National Research Initiatives If I cared, I would find this impossibly opaque. Cheers, Adrian _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf