Harald sed: scenarios C and D envision incorporating the *support function* for the IETF. The IETF would remain an undefined entity under these scenarios. I've had another suggestion that the IETF (the real technical process entity) should become a formally recognizable entity of some sort (possibly an unincorporated organization). But that's distinct from the idea of incorporating the support function, and is NOT described in the current document. imho both C & D would be seen by most or the world as incorporating *the IETF* - if there is confusion within the IETF over the difference between incorporating the *support function* and incorporating the whole IETF the difference would be totally lost by non-IETFers (and most IETFers is my guess) - in any case, the target of any legal attack on the IETF would be the corporation with IETF in the name if one existed - about the only way I could see that there woudl not be confusion wiuld be to call the corporation "The Corporation to Support Internet Standardization" (TCTSIS or TCSIC) and not have the IETF name in it. Scott _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf