John, >> Global parameters are useless if the parser is intelligent >> enough to figure out the message structure independently. >> Given that such intelligence is a prerequisite to having a >> half-baked parser, the global parameters are always >> unnecessary. JCK> This is a minor point compared to the one below, and probably JCK> not an issue here, but I can't let the above stand. Actually, I suspect you (and we) can and should. A draft has been presented. Numerous objections from experienced folks have been lodged. Is there more productive discussion likely? This thread has not looked all that productive from the start and I am hard-pressed to see how that is going to change. Certainly countering arguments about the benefits of standards for labeling, semantics, and the like is not likely to convince anyone. If they don't see it, the only real question is what they are doing in this venue. Now, the real reason for my posting: If someone can summarize where this thread is going and/or should go, I'd appreciate it. d/ -- Dave Crocker <dcrocker-at-brandenburg-dot-com> Brandenburg InternetWorking <www.brandenburg.com> Sunnyvale, CA USA <tel:+1.408.246.8253> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf