Re: Interim (and other) meeting guidelines versus openness, transparency, inclusion, and outreach

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Hi Carsten,

I do not remember which one exactly, this was pre-pandemic.. few years ago. I did present at Sec dispatch daring to propose hybrid crypto schemes and improve revocation… at that time, in a private discussion with the Sec AD I received an apology saying that the attacks I was subject to was not acceptable. 

More recently, even after convincing my company and our members to share our IP, even after jumping through many unjustified loops for four years, even after organizing Hackathon initiatives in support of the community, even after demonstrating the use of the technology and into interoperability across commercial and open-source implementations, even after bringing many companies that bring Internet services to hundreds of millions of people across the world  to vote in a IETF WG for the first time to support a simple adoption, few comments from inexperienced academics that, frankly, do not even understand how long the road to deployments for quantum-safe crypto really is… delayed this important work on.. no basis at all - just look at the ridiculous thread in the LAMPS WG.

I am not sure about other areas, but Security needs a complete makeover at this point…

Of course, this is just my personal opinion (although supported by quite a lot of evidence that I am glad will remain in the archives for everybody to judge…

As I said, not worth speaking up…

Cheers,
Max

> On Jul 15, 2023, at 12:35 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On 2023-07-15, at 00:17, Dr. Pala <madwolf@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> I did also speak at the plenary…
> 
> Which plenary?
> 
> My search-fu doesn’t suffice today…
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 





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