Re: [Last-Call] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-probe-attribution-05

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Hi Linda,

Please see inline ([JI]).

On 6/8/23 18:06, Linda Dunbar via Datatracker wrote:
Reviewer: Linda Dunbar
Review result: Not Ready

I have reviewed this document as part of the Ops area directorate's ongoing
effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Ops area directors.
Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other
last-call comments.

Summary:
This document describes the method for any organizations to send queries to
understand the received unsolicited probing packets.

[JI] I think there might be a misunderstanding here. What we define for the in-band technique is just a simple way to include a probe description URI (a link, an email address, a phone number, etc) in probes/packets so that third parties on the path would be able to identify them (what's the reason for such probes? who's responsible for that? what's the purpose? etc). We do *not* define how third parties would verify the probe attribution (at least, we explain how, but we do not define a query to do that automatically).

Issues:
- Are those queries generated automatically?

[JI] Not really sure about what you mean with "queries". See the above explanation. If I missed your point, please shout.

- If the queries are generated automatically, does it require routers upgrade
to support the auto-generating of those queries? - If the queries are generated
manually, the draft should give some detailed examples since those queries will
be generated by people not coming to IETF. - Today, most routers ignore the
Internet probes they don't support. What are the problems of ignoring them?

[JI] No, routers do not need any upgrade. If the out-of-band technique, nothing is included in probes. If the in-band technique, the probe attribution is included in probes, but these bytes are just like data payload.

Thanks,
Justin

Best Regards,
Linda Dunbar




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