Speaking with no hats, On Nov 10, 2022, at 11:40, Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Massy) <julien.maisonneuve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > . Considering the importance of mailing lists for work in IETF, this can be considered a drastic penalty. > However here we're going to a different level where you are effectively preventing someone to work with IETF in any way. Since “all work happens on the list”, I would argue that GitHub posting rights or Zulyp or jabber posting rights are equivalent. > For some it could be equivalent to losing your job. > I feel we're losing the indispensable proportionality of the sanction. I dont feel that way. This process starts only after many warnings to the individual, and that process already has an increased proportionality. Paul