Re: RFC 8958 needs to be removed

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On 27 Oct 2022, at 11:04, touch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Oct 27, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Pete Resnick <resnick=40episteme.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 27 Oct 2022, at 9:03, Timothy Mcsweeney wrote:

RFC 8958 needs to be removed because it is infringing on the copyright listed in section 14 of RFC3405.

No, it isn't. The establishment of the IETF Trust assigned all copyrights on exi[s]ting RFCs from the Internet Society to the IETF Trust. See https://trustee.ietf.org

Not all existing RFCs - only those published after a particular date (which I don’t recall). Those published before that date needed to have copyright transferred from the authors - and not all authors (myself included) have done so.

Joe

So, to be clear: ISOC assigned all of *its* copyrights to the IETF Trust; obviously it couldn't assign authors' copyrights. But the pre-5378 issue is irrelevant in this case: Even pre-5378, authors always granted a license for their work to be copied, used, and modified *within the IETF*, and 8958 is an IETF BCP and clearly within IETF process. The pre-5378 issue is that the Trust can't allow work to be used *outside* of the IETF process without the original authors' permission.

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