> From: ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Mike S) > So the fact is, by blocking ICMP, such ISPs have broken IP connectivity, > and can no longer claim to be providing Internet (IP) service. I agree, but which flavor of other than "Full Internet Connectivity" would it be? Does http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-klensin-ip-service-terms-02.txt need a category of "Public address, stupid filtering"? Or is "Client only, public address" close enough? Many people who install or defend such stupid filters are offended by the observation that they are not doing real IP. Labelling such filtered access as what it is or at least something other than "Full Internet Connectivity" would reduce its popularity. Vernon Schryver vjs@xxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf