Followed Brian's link, and the number of dead not-redirected links, that result in trying to follow the reasoning behind the action, is considerable. A case for redirection, and for better archiving to preserve institutional memory? ad hominem approaches are best avoided, and most of us learn that early. Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx > On 5 Oct 2022, at 14:40, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Kjetil, > > On 05-Oct-22 10:42, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: > ... >> This BCP is just one more step towards this splintering. > > This BCP was approved and published in 2004, and has been applied > very rarely. There were two cases in early 2006, and one in May 2019. > (https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/posting-rights-actions/) > > I was IETF Chair at the time of the first two, and I can assure you > it was a very time consuming and worrying responsibility, and the > number of private insults I received was considerable. > > I think uncivil and/or divisive language has been our problem, > not the very occasional PR actions in response. > > Regards, > Brian Carpenter > > > -- > last-call mailing list > last-call@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call