Hi Stewart,
On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 3:16 AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I am curious, what degree of independence is required between two companies for their employees to be not of the same affiliation?
The IETF is in no position to investigate such things. It is left up to the judgement of the NomCom Chair initially and one reason for publicly posting who was selected and waiting a while is to give people the opportunity to appeal decisions by the NomCom Chair either way up to the NomCom dispute resolution procedure.
The following are some quotes from RFC 8713:
- Volunteers must provide their full name, email address, and primary company or organization affiliation (if any) when volunteering.
- No more than two volunteers with the same primary affiliation may be selected for the NomCom. The Chair reviews the primary affiliation of each volunteer selected by the method in turn. If the primary affiliation for a volunteer is the same as two previously selected volunteers, that volunteer is removed from consideration and the method is repeated to identify the next eligible volunteer.
- If a selected volunteer, upon reading the announcement with the list of selected volunteers, finds that two or more other volunteers have the same affiliation, then the volunteer should notify the Chair who will determine the appropriate action.
- The number of NomCom members with the same primary affiliation is limited in order to avoid the appearance of improper bias in choosing the leadership of the IETF. Rather than defining precise rules for how to define "affiliation", the IETF community depends on the honor and integrity of the participants to make the process work.
Donald
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> Stewart
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 16 Aug 2022, at 16:48, NomCom Chair 2022 <nomcom-chair-2022@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > There's one week left to object to the current list of NomCom voting members. As a reminder, they are:
> > - Quan Xiong,Wuhan Zhongxing Software Company Limited
> > - Xuesong Geng,Huawei
> > - Geoff Huston,APN IC
> > - Sarah Banks,Corelight, Inc
> > - Georgios Karagiannis,Huawei
> > - Lixia Zhang,UCLA
> > - Jon Hudson,Desnet Industries & Spaced Out Radio
> > - Luc Andre Burdet,Cisco
> > - Mark Nottingham,Cloudflare
> > - Ran Chen,Nanjing Zhongxingxin Software Co.Ltd
> >
> > One person has not responded to multiple attempts over the past week. The next three people on the list are:
> > - Ines Robles, Tampere University
> > - Huaimo Chen, Futurewei
> > - Daniel Havey, Microsoft
> >
> > I emailed Ines yesterday to see if she is willing and able, and to Daniel this morning in case Ines cannot do it. Huaimo is disqualified because there are already two people from Huawei on the committee.
> >
> > Please note that *anyone* can object to the list because of those omitted, not just the seven who were left off. For details, see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/kAVc3aWAomaxeJSZvu_eEbwZVvI/.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > -Rich Salz, 2022 NomCom Chair
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 16 Aug 2022, at 16:48, NomCom Chair 2022 <nomcom-chair-2022@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > There's one week left to object to the current list of NomCom voting members. As a reminder, they are:
> > - Quan Xiong,Wuhan Zhongxing Software Company Limited
> > - Xuesong Geng,Huawei
> > - Geoff Huston,APN IC
> > - Sarah Banks,Corelight, Inc
> > - Georgios Karagiannis,Huawei
> > - Lixia Zhang,UCLA
> > - Jon Hudson,Desnet Industries & Spaced Out Radio
> > - Luc Andre Burdet,Cisco
> > - Mark Nottingham,Cloudflare
> > - Ran Chen,Nanjing Zhongxingxin Software Co.Ltd
> >
> > One person has not responded to multiple attempts over the past week. The next three people on the list are:
> > - Ines Robles, Tampere University
> > - Huaimo Chen, Futurewei
> > - Daniel Havey, Microsoft
> >
> > I emailed Ines yesterday to see if she is willing and able, and to Daniel this morning in case Ines cannot do it. Huaimo is disqualified because there are already two people from Huawei on the committee.
> >
> > Please note that *anyone* can object to the list because of those omitted, not just the seven who were left off. For details, see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/kAVc3aWAomaxeJSZvu_eEbwZVvI/.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > -Rich Salz, 2022 NomCom Chair
