Audio stream available. Makes me wonder why anyone would ever want to use video, or YouTube. -----Original Message----- From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Lars Eggert Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 9:31 AM To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> Cc: The IESG <iesg@xxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Meetecho observer logins and privacy Hi John, On 2022-7-27, at 10:15, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > However, my recollection is that the decision that is must be possible > to be an anonymous observer in real time was made, on privacy grounds, > after significant community discussion and IETF > consensus. IIR, some of that discussion included a sense that > disadvantaging such observers in any way was inconsistent with the > privacy principles the IETF was trying to promote. > > I hope we can avoid reopening the original discussion. However, we > normally take the position that a decision made by IETF consensus can > only be reversed by IETF consensus. would you have a pointer to where/when that IETF consensus was established? (I'll also note that audio streams remain available for live listening without a login.) Thanks, Lars