> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:14 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > However, in the real world, I believe that moving in those > directions would result in loud outcries about how things > already take too long, that following that "clean" a process > would make them take longer Oh, sure. Please consider those suggestions as an idealized (for some meaning of “ideal”) starting point, made with the realization that some tuning would be needed to address those very concerns. Keith