On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 1:52 PM John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Alexa,
Understood.
Thanks
john
--On Monday, May 9, 2022 10:31 -0700 Alexa Morris
<amorris@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
>> On May 9, 2022, at 8:19 AM, John C Klensin
>> <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> --On Monday, May 9, 2022 09:59 -0500 Behcet Sarikaya
>> <sarikaya2012@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sarikaya2012@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 2:43 PM Ross Finlayson
>>> <finlayson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 5, 2022, at 9:57 AM, IETF Executive Director <
>>>> exec-director@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The IETF 114 meeting venue is at the Sheraton Philadelphia
>>>>> Downtown. As
>>>> explained in the FAQ, you will need to register before you
>>>> can reserve a guest room at the venue.
>>>>
>>>> Strictly speaking, this does not appear to be correct. The
>>>> link that I was sent to me (after I registered for the IETF)
>>>> to reserve a guest room was not specific to my IETF
>>>> registration. While it gave me the IETF-discounted room
>>>> rate, it would have worked for anyone, even if they hadn't
>>>> registered for the IETF.
>>>>
>>>> For other on-site IETF meetings (before Covid), the link to
>>>> reserve a hotel guest room (at the IETF-discounted room
>>>> rate) was included in the IETF "Registration open" email.
>>>> This allowed people to reserve an IETF-hotel room (often a
>>>> scarce resource) early, while deferring actually
>>>> registering for the IETF.
>>>>
>>>> Not including the hotel room link in the "Registration
>>>> open" email appears to be an (understandable) ploy to get
>>>> as many paid IETF registrations as early as possible.
>>
>>> Last time early registration carried a much bigger discount
>>> than this time. That is my only real concern.
>>
>> I'd add one. With online meetings prior to the pandemic, the
>> meeting page(s) listed alternate hotels and similar facilities
>> in the vicinity of the venue, ones that had been at least
>> minimally checked out in venue site visits. Apparently, this
>> time, not only is the main hotel not heavily discounted, but
>> people looking for other options are apparently completely on
>> their own. I can guess at some of the reasons for the former,
>> starting with lower and more uncertain attendee numbers but
>> less so for the latter.
>
>
> You're correct that pre-pandemic the IETF usually contracted
> with one or two additional local properties. Typically this
> was done to provide a less expensive alternative to the main
> IETF venue. However in more recent years we observed that
> these alternative venues were poorly-utilized and it was
> decided that the very minimal number of bookings did not
> justify the substantial amount of administrative effort
> required, except in those cases where the main room block was
> either very expensive, or insufficient in size.
>
> Happily, the IETF 114 meeting venue (Sheraton Philadelphia
> Downtown) has offered the IETF a very reasonable rate ($190
> USD) so we expect that most people will opt to stay there, and
> accordingly we have a sizable room block.
>
> Finally, the hotel room discount that Behcet referred to was
> unique to Vienna, where the first 400 guest room reservations
> were at a highly discounted rate. It's highly unlikely that we
> will see something like that again.
>
Thanks Alexa :).
Behcet
> Best,
> Alexa
>
>>
>> john
>
