Alexa, Understood. Thanks john --On Monday, May 9, 2022 10:31 -0700 Alexa Morris <amorris@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi John, > >> On May 9, 2022, at 8:19 AM, John C Klensin >> <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> --On Monday, May 9, 2022 09:59 -0500 Behcet Sarikaya >> <sarikaya2012@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sarikaya2012@xxxxxxxxx>> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 2:43 PM Ross Finlayson >>> <finlayson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> On May 5, 2022, at 9:57 AM, IETF Executive Director < >>>> exec-director@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The IETF 114 meeting venue is at the Sheraton Philadelphia >>>>> Downtown. As >>>> explained in the FAQ, you will need to register before you >>>> can reserve a guest room at the venue. >>>> >>>> Strictly speaking, this does not appear to be correct. The >>>> link that I was sent to me (after I registered for the IETF) >>>> to reserve a guest room was not specific to my IETF >>>> registration. While it gave me the IETF-discounted room >>>> rate, it would have worked for anyone, even if they hadn't >>>> registered for the IETF. >>>> >>>> For other on-site IETF meetings (before Covid), the link to >>>> reserve a hotel guest room (at the IETF-discounted room >>>> rate) was included in the IETF "Registration open" email. >>>> This allowed people to reserve an IETF-hotel room (often a >>>> scarce resource) early, while deferring actually >>>> registering for the IETF. >>>> >>>> Not including the hotel room link in the "Registration >>>> open" email appears to be an (understandable) ploy to get >>>> as many paid IETF registrations as early as possible. >> >>> Last time early registration carried a much bigger discount >>> than this time. That is my only real concern. >> >> I'd add one. With online meetings prior to the pandemic, the >> meeting page(s) listed alternate hotels and similar facilities >> in the vicinity of the venue, ones that had been at least >> minimally checked out in venue site visits. Apparently, this >> time, not only is the main hotel not heavily discounted, but >> people looking for other options are apparently completely on >> their own. I can guess at some of the reasons for the former, >> starting with lower and more uncertain attendee numbers but >> less so for the latter. > > > You're correct that pre-pandemic the IETF usually contracted > with one or two additional local properties. Typically this > was done to provide a less expensive alternative to the main > IETF venue. However in more recent years we observed that > these alternative venues were poorly-utilized and it was > decided that the very minimal number of bookings did not > justify the substantial amount of administrative effort > required, except in those cases where the main room block was > either very expensive, or insufficient in size. > > Happily, the IETF 114 meeting venue (Sheraton Philadelphia > Downtown) has offered the IETF a very reasonable rate ($190 > USD) so we expect that most people will opt to stay there, and > accordingly we have a sizable room block. > > Finally, the hotel room discount that Behcet referred to was > unique to Vienna, where the first 400 guest room reservations > were at a highly discounted rate. It's highly unlikely that we > will see something like that again. > > Best, > Alexa > >> >> john >
