Re: mail crypto, was the introduction problem, was Email

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It appears that Keith Moore  <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>> How much do we think 'transmitted in cleartext' exists anymore?
>TLS is still negotiated on a per-hop basis, and STARTTLS is subject to 
>downgrading attacks from well-placed intermediaries.

Only for domains that don't support MTA-STS or DANE TLSA. I think you
will find that the majority of mail operators, certainly by volume,
support at least one of them.

R's,
John




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