Re: [Last-Call] [OPS-DIR] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-quic-manageability-14

["MORTON JR., AL" <acmorton@xxxxxxx>]

 

From: Warren Kumari <warren@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 1:00 PM
To: Brian Trammell <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: MORTON JR., AL <acmorton@xxxxxxx>; Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ops-dir@xxxxxxxx; Paul Vixie <paul@xxxxxxxxxxx>; last-call@xxxxxxxx; draft-ietf-quic-manageability.all@xxxxxxxx; Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@xxxxxxxxx>; QUIC WG <quic@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OPS-DIR] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-quic-manageability-14

 

Hi Brian, Al, Mirja, et al,

 

Just a quick note to say thank you to all for this conversation and working towards some sort of consensus. 

 

I personally think that the PRs that Brian has created are helpful, and are looking good. There is a definite, and ongoing tension between the operators' need to see into the traffic for management/filtering/malware protection/etc;  and the users' needs for privacy - this tension makes these sorts of discussions somewhat fraught, and I'd like to thank everyone again for trying to see each other's viewpoints, and work towards text / a solution that we can all live with.

 

While this compromise might not be perfect, is it good enough that we can all live with it?

W

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WFM, thanks,

Al

 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 7:04 AM, Brian Trammell <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Al, Lucas, all,

 

I think I’ve distilled down this thread into two PRs: https://github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts/pull/466 on “recommendation” language generally, and https://github.com/quicwg/ops-drafts/pull/467 rephrasing recommendations not to switch on version into an analysis of the tradeoffs (thanks Lucas for your help with these!). Please have a look and let me know whether those resolve this discussion.

 

Thanks, cheers,

 

Brian

 

 

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