On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:09:57PM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > As many of us know, in > the IETF arena (and also the Internet Society one), "It's always been > done that way," is often not treated as a fallacy and often instead as > a valid form of argument. I think just going ahead and making a > change without any discussion is a way for me to get a lot of angry > mail, and I don't need to invent new ways for that to happen :D Tourist tip of the day: Get your favourite meme in german while in vienna: https://www.spreadshirt.at/shop/home-living/tassen-becher/das+haben+wir+schon+immer+so+gemacht/ The full german triptych is: Das haben wir schon immer so gemacht - We have always done it this way Das haben wir noch nie anders gemacht - We have never done it differently Da koennte ja jeder kommen - Who are you (to propose change) ? Cheers toerless > > Best regards, > > A > > -- > Andrew Sullivan > President & CEO, Internet Society > sullivan@xxxxxxxx > +1 416 731 1261