historically the ISOC CEO has had to twist arms rather tightly in some cases - taking out that option would seem a loss Scott > On Feb 14, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I like the idea of trying to avoid "familiarity capture". > However, I have two problems with the text as written. > > The major problem I have is that it provides no option for the ISOC President to go twist more arms if the set of volunteers is unacceptable. I realize that allowing such fallback weakens the above protection. But the whole system only works if we assume good faith on the part of the ISOC president, so I do not think the loss is significant. > > As a lesser point, I would suggest changing the MUST have been a member of a prior nomcom to a SHOULD (strongly) have been... We have succeeded with nomcom chairs who had not served on prior nomcoms. > > Yours, > Joel > > On 2/14/2022 12:54 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >> Dear colleagues, >> I write with my job hat on. I'm employed by the Internet Society. >> Part of my job here is to select the NomCom Chair. I've been >> uncomfortable about how that has worked in the past, and more than a >> year ago I said I'd write a new process. I failed at that goal, but >> it's a new year so I've finally written this. It's at >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sullivan-nomcom-chair-select/. >> I am eagerly requesting feedback on that draft _for things under my >> control_. The procedures in RFC 8713 give me a lot of latitude in how >> to deal with this appointment. They give me no control whatsoever as >> to whether I _should_ be able to do this, who else should do it, and >> so on. Feedback of the form "Here's how NomCom should work for real," >> will be ignored, because they will not provide me guidance as to what >> I should do. >> Please also resist the temptation to tell me, "Tell someone else it's >> their thing and promise to follow what they promise." If the IETF >> wants to modify RFC 8713, including removing my own role in this >> selection, I don't imagine a universe in which I'd work to work to >> foil that. But similarly I am not willing to create an entirely new >> consultative body (or new job for an existing consultative body) >> without the community saying so. This document is merely an outline >> of how I plan to execute my duties as they're already defined. >> I hope this will be a modest contribution to the IETF, and I look >> forward to your suggestions. >> _Please_ send me feedback directly and not copied to the list. I >> won't be able to follow discussion about this on the list except >> sporadically, and I'm going to have to put this plan into action some >> time in the coming weeks. Thanks very much. >> Best regards, >> A >