Re: The leadership pipeline and WG chairs

Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:04:10 -0500



    On 11/13/21 9:03 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:

    
        I noticed
            that the recent PRIV BOF had a former IETF Chair and a
            former AD as chairs. I hope that if/when a WG is chartered,
            that one of those slots will be given to someone new.
         
        I also want
            the Area Directors to look through their working groups and
            consider asking some experienced people to step down so that
            their position can be filled by someone new to the role. I
            am sure that in some cases it will be a difficult,  perhaps
            even unpleasant, conversation to have. I know that sometimes
            we used a WG chair position to help a long-time contributor
            justify their involvement to their employer. For the
            long-term health of the organization, we must stop doing
            that, if only because it goes against our declaration that
            people participate as individuals.
         
        Sent to both
            the ietf@ and iesg@ mailing list; please be careful about
            replies.
        

    I understand and support the desire to bring new people in, but I
      feel like this is stated in very much the wrong way.    There
      should not be a bias against experienced people.   We NEED to
      employ experienced people in leadership roles, and some WGs need
      experienced leadership more than others.   It should be left to
      the IESG to decide which roles to fill with an experienced person
      versus those to fill with someone with less experience (perhaps to
      give that new person experience).  

    
    Also, ageism is not a virtue.
    Keith