Hi, > And that's why it's important to reinforce the idea that IETF participants are NOT representatives of their employers, but at most "sponsored" by them (or in many cases they pay their own way), and IETF participants are expected to use their own best technical judgment about what's good for the Internet as a whole. If we can get back to this, I'm in! Unfortunately the IETF has indeed become the IVTF (https://archive.psg.com/051000.sigcomm-ivtf.pdf) Cheers, Sander
