> On 2021-9-27, at 18:36, Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > In an admirable effort to be transparent, we have inundated this list in > particular with data. We now need to take the time to reduce that data to > usable information. Please take another swing. > > the IESG certainly could. But I'm also pretty convinced that whatever proposal > we came up with would get improved by the community pretty immediately. > > So maybe we could try the opposite, and see if the community has some > consensus on what information they would like to retain on ietf-announce, > under the assumption that that would then remain our lists for broad > announcements. > > For reference, here's again the list of posting classes that currently go there, and > the count of messages in each class in the last year: > > 1. Announcements sent manually by <various roles> = 284 > 2. Announcements of new and updated WG charters & WG closures = 44 > 3. (included in above 44) > 4. Announcements of new non-WG mailing lists = 13 > 5. Announcements of new RFCs = 275 > 6. IESG and LLC telechat announcements = 39 > 7. Announcements of document actions = 175 > 8. Announcements of IESG conflict-review results = 14 > 9. Last call announcements for I-Ds = 174 (+ 4 for other actions) > 10. Interim WG meeting announcements = 256 > > The "important-news" proposal would only retain those under (1) above. (We > could have a conversation if some of those could also be moved elsewhere, but > that's maybe a separate discussion.) > > For any type of posting we'd remove, we could of course create a new list, so > that the information was still shared. I understand that when we move to > mailman3, we'll get a much better web-based subscription interface that will > make managing subscriptions much more straightforward. I wonder... if 2 - 10 could all be sent to other list(s) and then a single weekly summary email sent to ietf-announce that has the list of subject lines with a link to the email in the archive. This could even be done with a lot of emails from category 1. Barbara