Building a solution using the last available pool of addresses cannot be considered a full solution. Let's think about solutions where no more available IPv4 addresses exists. When there are some available IPv4 addresses with some ISPs, that doesn't means we still have plenty of them, the depletion is not 100%, but in some areas, yes, there are no more available. Khaled Omar -----Original Message----- From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 5:45 PM To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: What's going on with the IETF. > It still uses a pool of IPv4 addresses which is not available. you better tell the folks that are using it that they can not do what they are doing > On Sep 9, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > You mean NAT64/DNS64 ? > > It still uses a pool of IPv4 addresses which is not available. > > Khaled Omar > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 5:27 PM > To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: What's going on with the IETF. > > big ISPs (like telephone companies) have found that 6 to 4 NATs work well enough > > I have no actual stats on what organizations accept IPv6 "in their networks" - but wether they "accept" > v6 or not - most if not al of their networking and computing equipment already supports it - if they get into a bind on v4 they can "accept" v6 with no insurmountable issues > > my home network, including my name server & web server) supports both transparently - it just works > > Scott > >> On Sep 9, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> It means we will have two blocks, IPv4-only block, and IPv6-only block, where is the communication between them with an applied solution, still nothing. >> >> Most organizations still don't accept to have IPv6 in their networks, and at the same time they cannot have IPv4 due to the depletion, so where are we going?!!!!! >> >> Khaled Omar >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@xxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 5:14 PM >> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: What's going on with the IETF. >> >> sorry, I have no idea what "It is near the division into blocks of >> IPv4 and IPv6" means >> >> Scott >> >>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>>> so maybe the Internet world is not yet near its end >>> >>> It is near the division into blocks of IPv4 and IPv6 as stated before in the 1st version of the IPv10 I-D, but who believes !!!!! >>> >>> Khaled Omar >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@xxxxxxxxx] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 5:09 PM >>> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: What's going on with the IETF. >>> >>> fwiw - IPv6 usage usage is increasing quite well (over 30% of Google >>> accesses) - see >>> >>> https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html >>> >>> so maybe the Internet world is not yet near its end >>> >>> Scott >>> >>>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I sent an e-mail regarding the depletion of the IPv4 address space world-wide and still don’t see a reputable solution that gives a light at the end of the Tunnel. >>>> >>>> Why the IETFers are using the ostrich style - hiding her face in the sand and sees no problems happening around the globe. >>>> >>>> I don’t find solutions APPLIED yet that says something is happening here. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Khaled Omar >>> >> >
