Re: What's going on with the IETF.

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> It still uses a pool of IPv4 addresses which is not available.

you better tell the folks that are using it that they can not do what they are doing


> On Sep 9, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> You mean NAT64/DNS64 ?
> 
> It still uses a pool of IPv4 addresses which is not available.
> 
> Khaled Omar
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 5:27 PM
> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: What's going on with the IETF.
> 
> big ISPs (like telephone companies) have found that 6 to 4 NATs work well enough
> 
> I have no actual stats on what organizations accept IPv6 "in their networks" - but wether they "accept"
> v6 or not - most if not al of their networking and computing equipment already supports it - if they get into a bind on v4 they can "accept" v6 with no insurmountable issues 
> 
> my home network, including my name server & web server) supports both transparently - it just works
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> It means we will have two blocks, IPv4-only block, and IPv6-only block, where is the communication between them with an applied solution, still nothing.
>> 
>> Most organizations still don't accept to have IPv6 in their networks, and at the same time they cannot have IPv4 due to the depletion, so where are we going?!!!!!
>> 
>> Khaled Omar
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 5:14 PM
>> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: What's going on with the IETF.
>> 
>> sorry, I have no idea what "It is near the division into blocks of 
>> IPv4 and IPv6" means
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> so maybe the Internet world is not yet near its end
>>> 
>>> It is near the division into blocks of IPv4 and IPv6 as stated before in the 1st version of the IPv10 I-D, but who believes !!!!!
>>> 
>>> Khaled Omar
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Scott Bradner [mailto:sob@xxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 5:09 PM
>>> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: What's going on with the IETF.
>>> 
>>> fwiw - IPv6 usage usage is increasing quite well (over 30% of Google 
>>> accesses)  - see
>>> 
>>> https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
>>> 
>>> so maybe the Internet world is not yet near its end
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> I sent an e-mail regarding the depletion of the IPv4 address space world-wide and still don’t see a reputable solution that gives a light at the end of the Tunnel.
>>>> 
>>>> Why the IETFers are using the ostrich style - hiding her face in the sand and sees no problems happening around the globe.
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t find solutions APPLIED yet that says something is happening here.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Khaled Omar
>>> 
>> 
> 





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