Re: [Last-Call] [Manycouches] Last Call: <draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting-04.txt> (Considerations for Cancellation of IETF Meetings) to Best Current Practice

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Hi Jay,

I have no concerns about your proposed changes. I've created a PR here, in case others have an objection:
https://github.com/martinduke/draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting/pull/6

and will commit it at the conclusion of last call.

Thanks!

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 2:38 PM Jay Daley <jay@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks Martin.  This is well put together and will provide us with valuable guidance.

I’ve just given it a final review and I have a few points:

1. I'm increasingly nervous about a hard and fast 12 weeks in 3.1  I would prefer that either pushed out to 14 weeks or some flexibility in there "occurs within a period of ten to fourteen weeks"

2.  I would prefer to drop "As a last resort" at the front of 4.4 as I don’t see this as a linear process where we eliminate one option after another, it’s more of a trade-off across all the options.

3.  This text, which I should have spotted before, leads to too many complicated questions about charging a new fee for remote meetings, and links the financial impact on the LLC to a financial impact on attendees which seems unnecessary; 

        When a meeting becomes remote, the LLC SHOULD attempt to recover
        whatever venue-related payments, past or future, it can and rebate
        this to registered attendees, up to a maximum of their total cost
        of registration.

The following text captures the expected process in this circumstance:

        When a meeting becomes remote, the LLC MUST refund registered
        attendees the difference between their paid registration fee and the
        equivalent fee for a remote meeting.  The LLC SHOULD offer refunds
        to registered attendees who do not wish to attend a remote meeting.

thanks again
Jay

> On 11/06/2021, at 4:54 AM, The IESG <iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> The IESG has received a request from the Stay Home Meet Only Online WG
> (shmoo) to consider the following document: - 'Considerations for
> Cancellation of IETF Meetings'
>  <draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting-04.txt> as Best Current Practice
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> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
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> Abstract
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>   The IETF holds three in-person meetings per year to discuss and
>   understand issues.  However, various emergencies can make a planned
>   in-person meeting infeasible.  This document provides criteria for
>   making this judgment.
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> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting/
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