I’d suggest that we do so for cause, if it happens. It’s not the engineers making the silly calls. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Dean Willis <dean.willis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Today, Emil Ivov posted a humorous note about how the various SIP-related network traversal RFC efforts like STUn, etc. reflect a tension between realism and pragmatism. > > I responded with my usual argument, that I'm in the "kill them all and let TCP sort it out" camp. > > That earned me a 24 ban from Facebook for promoting violence. > > I hereby propose we censor Facebook engineers in IETF meetings for promoting stupidity. > > -- > Dean > > >