--On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 10:53 +0100 Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > The AD can edit the text and provide a solution that works. And which has IETF consensus? Again, disclaimers aside (see Spencer's note), the more we formalize this -- or, to some extent, view lists of errata and fixes as more than guidance to the next WG to come along to work on the document -- the more we create a confusing situation about what implementers are actually expected to believe. So, if there is significant controversy about whether the actual correct solution is, I'd rather see the notes be explicit about that, rather than describing "a solution that works" rather than an agreed-upon best solution. > If there is a problem but no solution that would be quite > worrying. Isn't that at least part of what "hold for document update" is for. I.e., we've identified the problem but determining which solution is good enough to get (or even presume) IETF consensus is going to take more study and group involvement. I don't know how many of them there have been in recent years but, as someone generating a report about something I claim is an error, I think it is important that I be about to say "this particular section or provision is clearly wrong because... But I either don't have a clue about how it should be fixed or can propose three alternatives that seem reasonable". That would be consistent with many comments we've seen on this (and other) IETF lists over the years in which someone who flags a problem doesn't really care how it is resolved as long as the decision is clear and well-documented. I'd hope that, unless it was possible to reject the claimed error, any of those cases would go swiftly and efficiently into "Hold for document revision" rather than, e.g., an AD trying to figure out the right answer on their own. john best, john