Hi - On 2021-04-16 10:43 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: ...
If newcomers risk being "snarled at" it is only due to our own culture and abusive behavior and not due to their lack of preparation.
... Over the years I was able to arm-twist several coworkers into attending IETF meetings. All were sharp people with plenty of clue, and I took pains to describe IETF culture and norms in advance. In general, their reaction prior to the actual meeting was "it can't possibly be that bad." They all made it through the meetings without being attacked too badly, but the attacks and generally uncivil behavior between *other* participants led them to become quite reluctant to ever attend another IETF meeting. The common post-meeting reaction was "you should have warned me - it was so much more awful than you described." It was only because our business depended on it that I was able to get them to go to any subsequent meetings, but it also led me to conclude that IETF meetings can be painful experiences for anyone with a shred of empathy. One needn't be the object of the unpleasantness to find the unpleasantness unpleasant. Randy
