hi Tom, On 13/03/2021, 11:54, "tom petch" <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Is your suggestion to remove the parenthetical? I.e.: > > > > OLD > > A zero-length value indicates that the server will send with the > > client's CID but does not wish the client to include a CID (or > > again, alternately, to use a zero-length CID). > > > > NEW > > A zero-length value indicates that the server will send with the > > client's CID but does not wish the client to include a CID. > > Thomas > > Yes, that would fix this particular problem I have within this > section. > > I word it that way since I did raise two other doubts about the > wording in this section in my original post, one about successful > negotiation, which seems to me an undefined term, and one about > sending and receiving, which seems over-restrictive in the context. At the top of the thread, you suggested to change: > If DTLS peers have negotiated the use of a CIDs using the ClientHello > and the ServerHello messages into: > If DTLS peers have negotiated the use of a non-zero CID in at least > one direction, using the ClientHello and the ServerHello messages which is fine with me. However, I think it doesn't completely remove the ambiguity you are pointing at. So I'd suggest we also change the paragraph just above from: If DTLS peers have not negotiated the use of CIDs then the RFC 6347-defined record format and content type MUST be used. to: If DTLS peers have not negotiated the use of CIDs, which includes the case where both sent a zero-length cid in their connection_id extensions, then the RFC 6347-defined record format and content type MUST be used. Regarding your suggestion: > "The DTLS peers determine whether incoming and outgoing messages > need.." seems not to cater for unidirectional CIDs; perhaps > "The DTLS peers determine whether incoming or outgoing, or both, > messages need.." It surely works for me. cheers, thanks! IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call