> On Jan 23, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 23/1/21 14:12, Joe Touch wrote: >>>> On Jan 22, 2021, at 11:37 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> One *internet-draft* certainly doesn't undermine E2E. However, I guess >>> that an *RFC* published as a "Proposed Standard" probably does (undermine) E2E? >> Not when it doesn’t update the hundreds of other standards that don’t. > > It doesn't formally update them, true. But it is a de-facto update: behavior that goes against such other standards has been approved as PS. There is no such thing as de facto updates. You’re confusing the “let a thousand flowers bloom” approach with a change in architecture.